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Published on October 19, 2007 By Mumblefratz In Metaverse

This is where we will keep all the rules used for the Metaverse League (MVL). The point is to have a single place where all rules are defined and so there's a single place where people can refer to resolve all question.

I will continually update this OP to reflect the current state of rules that we have all agreed to. The point is to make this as simple and concise as possible. As we have seen argument and upset occurs when different people have different interpretations of what has been agreed. Keeping these rules as simple and short as possible will help reduce potential conflict.



Rule 1) Rule changes are not allowed in the middle of a round. If an unanticipated situation develops in the middle of a round all effort should be made to deal with it as consistently as possible based on current rules and precedent. In the hopefully rare cases this is not possible the Commissioner will make an arbitrary ruling on how the matter will be resolved for the current round. Once the round is over then the issue can be revisited and a more permanent solution can be decided by the members of the League. Note that this arbitrary ruling can only be made by the Commissioner. Also the Commissioner is the only person that can grant an exception to any rule, but this power should be used judiciously.

Rule 2) Team Size. People may join the League and start playing at pretty much anytime. In the middle of a round a new player should be randomly assigned a new team by either the Commissioner or Vice Commissioner. The only limitation is that at any point in time no team should have more than one more player than any other team.

Also people may have to announce that they can't submit during a round. This can be treated using the scoring rules related to non-submission or if it's early in the round the teams could be re-balanced by the Commissioner. The decision to re-balance or not, and if so who to move, is soley the decision of the Commissioner.

The ideal team size is 5 since it provides some protection against an unforeseen non-submittal without being too unweildly. Team size at the beginning of a round should never be less than 4 or more than 6.

Rule 3) Honor System. Each round of play consists of a game (or games) of randomly selected settings and victory conditions. Very few of the required settings can be verified, namely galaxy size and victory condition. The fact that all other settings cannot be verified requires the league to operate on the honor system.

From time to time various versions of the game may exhibit a bug that temporarily allows some particular exploit. When and if this happens people should make sure the league is aware of the situation but no rule will be made to prohibit the particular exploit other than the same honor system that ensures everyone is playing the same game.

A final point about the honor system is that abuse of the honor system doesn't debase a single game played by a single player but debases every game played by every player. When seen in this light I'm sure that no one would be tempted to risk shaking the foundation of the league just to gain a miniscule benefit by intentionally bending a setting or rule. Also everyone should realize that honest mistakes do happen and if occasionally someone makes a mistake in a required game setting that it's no real big deal.

A corollary to the fact that only galaxy size and victory condition can be verified, along with the practice of taking a game submitted to the metaverse but not submitted to the league as a persons "intended" league submission, results in the rule that people should not have games submitted to the metaverse under their league character that might be confused with a legitimate league game. Note that clearly once a player has made a submission for the current round there can be no such confusion.

Honor System Addendum

The deliberate and determined use by a Player, with full knowledge and intent, of repeatedly and excessively, exploiting bugs, quirks, or other miscellanea in a game to achieve an outcome not normally possible is hereby prohibited in the MVL.

Rule 4) Reported Difficulty Levels and Race Customization in MVL Games

Every MVL player is honor bound to ensure that the effective difficulty of any game they submit is accurately represented by the games posted difficulty. To support this requirement the following guidance is provided.

External modification of any game related files are prohibited in MVL games.

In-game modification of opponent characteristics is prohibited in MVL games. The only choices allowed are the selection of opponents from among the default standard races and default custom race and the selection of their difficulty levels.

All opponent starting relations must be set to "Unknown".

DA games must be set to Allow Surrenders.

Rule 5) MVL Member Behavior

In the case where a MVL member has been found to be cheating, being overly disruptive, or detrimental to the League in some form, the commissioner is free to levy the following punishments as he deems necessary and appropriate. Such punishments may include; the loss of a team Captaincy or other MVL Administrative Position, the loss of the Player's points earned in a particular Round, forcing the Player to sit out a Round, or any other temporary punishment deemed appropriate.

For anything deemed worthy of a permanent ban from the league then besides the recommendation of the commissioner it should also require the consensus of the captains and other MVL administrators to make the ban permanent. Once banned then continued disruption of MVL threads and activities will be appropriately reported to forum authorities.



Scoring

A team's score consists of the sum of "base" scores plus individual and team bonus points.

Base Score

A player's base score is simply 2 points for a win of the designated type, 1 point for a win of the wrong type and 0 points otherwise. A team’s base score is the sum of the four top player base scores submitted. This is done so that a team having more players has no advantage over a team with fewer players.

There are two types of rounds that are treated slightly differently. One is a “Single Victory” type round where all players play for the same victory condition. The other is an “All Victories” type round where each team must submit at least one game of each of the 4 different victory types.

Non-Submission

In the Single Victory round if a player neglects to submit a game then there is no issue as long as the team still has at least four other players that submitted a game. However, if the team only had four players to begin with then they would be missing one potential contribution to the team’s base score. If this non-submission is pre-announced (this is highly encouraged), then either the Commissioner or Vice Commissioner may randomly select another member of the team to submit another game to count towards the teams base score.

In the case where no notice is given, if the player has a single game that fits the rounds criteria as to date, galaxy size and victory condition posted to the Metaverse but not yet submitted to the league then that game will be presumed to be submitted "automatically" to the league during the last minute of the round. If there are more than one qualifying game posted to the metaverse under the players MVL character than the game with the highest score/year ratio will be the game submitted to the league. If two or more games have identical score/year ratios then the submitted game shall be randomly selected from these games by the commissioner or vice commissioner whichever is not a memeber of the team in question. Note that players should make sure that any games that "appear" to match the current rounds criteria posted to the MV do indeed satisfy all the current rounds criteria. This can always be accomplished by simply waiting until your official has been made before posting a game to the MV that might otherwise be confused with the current MVL game.

In the case where no notice is given, and if other members of the team have other games that satisfy the round’s criteria that have already been submitted to the metaverse then either the Commissioner or Vice Commissioner may randomly select one of these games to count towards the teams base score. In this case the team should identify *all* such games that satisfy the round’s criteria for possible selection not simply the *best* such game.

If the non-submission is not pre-announced and the team has no “extra” qualifying games then the team gets credit only for the number of base scores properly submitted.

Note that a team of 5 players with two players that failed to submit a game would be in a similar situation as described above and the same rules apply. The same is true with 6 players and 3 non-submissions, etc. It is also possible for a team to be more than one submission short of the required total of 4 in which case the same rules can be applied to possibly allow the team to make up for more than one non-submission.

Finally these same rules apply in the case of an All Victories round but with an extra qualification. This extra requirement is that in an All Victories round each team is required to submit at least one game of each victory type. In this case the team may be required to use an “extra” game as described by the rules above that duplicates the victory type of an already submitted game. In this case for base scoring purposes that game would have to be considered a 1 point victory of the wrong type. Note that such a game could still receive individual and team bonus points based on the correct victory category.

Individual Bonus Points

In the case of a Single Victory round a single bonus point is granted for the 4 top scoring games and the 4 fastest games.

In the case of an All Victory round a single bonus point is given to the top score and the fastest game in each of the 4 different victory conditions.

The fastest games are determined by the number of years reported by the metaverse. Game speed ties are broken by score and score ties are broken by speed. Any games tied in both speed and score will be left unbroken and both players will receive the identical bonus.

Team Bonus Points

All team bonus points are based on the average of the team’s submitted games. Just as in the individual bonus point case only wins of the correct type are counted. The 1st place team receives 2 points and the 2nd place team receives 1 point in the following categories.

Team Score

Team Speed (speed of game reported by metaverse)

Team Submission (number of days into the round before game is submitted to the league)

Any teams tied in any team bonus category receive the same bonus. However, any fractional result is not subject to rounding and any tie must be exact.



MVL Voting Rules

1. Any MVL member can call for a vote among any number of competing proposals which must be seconded by two other MVL members to be considered official.

2. All votes will occur in the Galciv II Metaverse Leagues forum at the Core and notice must also be given in the current MVL Round thread.

3. All votes should run for a period of time specified in the OP of the voting thread. This period should be no shorter than 1 week or longer than 3 weeks. It's encouraged but not required that votes should be completed before the start of the next round of play if at all possible.

4. A valid vote requires participation by at least 50% of active MVL members. An abstention counts as participation. A proposal requires 60% or more of the cast ballots to be accepted. If less than 60% is achieved by any one proposal there will be a runoff between the two most popular options. The winner of the runoff will be the proposal that achieves a simple majority of votes cast with no quorum requirement.

5. Editing of your vote is allowed although any changes should be made in such a way as to make it obvious that a change has occured.

6. Once the time specified for the vote expires the thread will be locked to maintain an accurate record of the vote. The results of any vote are final and can only be changed by a subsequent official MVL vote.

Rules accepted by Consensus

From time to time minor issues may crop up that may not warrent the full attention of the League. In such cases a limited number of members may discuss the issue and come to some agreement. As long as no member of the league voices any objection to such an agreement and as long as such an agreement has been posted in a prominent thread (the current round thread or the MVL Rule thread) for a period of one week then that rule will be considered to be "official" by the league.

Besides any MVL member voicing an objection to the proposed rule, thereby invalidating the proposal, any member could also move to have a vote taken on the proposal which, as specified in our voting rules, requires a vote be taken as long as the motion is seconded by two other MVL members.



Last update Mar 28, 2008. Added Race Configuration Rule and Honor System Addendum

 


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on Dec 14, 2007
i wanted to point this out, but unless there's any real concern on anyone else's part, i don't think it bears back-tracking. i'll be content with whatever is decided on.

I agree that a binary yes/no decision at each point avoids the concern about what to do if support is spread across all the options and there's no clear favorite.

The reason I wrote it up as a choice of four was simply because it kind of evolved that way. I think the concern that I expressed about potential ambiguity among a choice of four expresses pretty much the same point you're going for which is to have a process that results in a definitive answer.

In any case the effect I think everyone can agree on is that we do reach a true concensus and not get to the point where we have something decided 13 to 12 and we therefore blithely go down the path dictated by the 13 knowing full well that there are 12 people that don't agree. If we ever came to such a decision I would what to go back and try to address the objections of the minority and come up with a new set of options on which a majority greater than 13 to 12 agree.

However I really don't want to get too formal here with voting bylaws and such, it can really become a pain. We do have such things in the Metaverse Council and with only 10~12 people such procedures can work. For example to pass any rule change required a 70% majority just to encourage the concensus building I described above. However I think that if we tried to get all formal in the context of 25 people and growing I think such a system quickly becomes unweildly. I would prefer if we try to keep these kinds of things in the realm of common sense. It will be obvious when we reach true concensus just as it will be obvious when we don't. If we can't reach true concensus that just means we have more work to do trying to find a solution that's acceptable to a greater majority.
on Dec 14, 2007
i don't know, i just think most players are eager to just play a game and show it to others.

I think I would prefer a "Welcome to the MVL" thread somewhere


why not just use the sign-up roster? i mean, it seems to me the most logical place to do it, rather than yet another MVL thread. some thoughtful editing of the OP there might be enough.

i'm basing this on some exeriences at work. i'm an admin for a freshmen gen ed program. my bosses decided that having a very "rigorous" program is more important than staffing it, so we can't really keep anyone in reception. and i've posted signs to help students find things. i swear these kids have some undiagnosed form of ADD. i have a huge sign hanging in the middle of the room, printed on two pieces of legal paper. across the top it reads "looking for something?" in a highlighter-orange box. there are pictures of things the might be looking for, and i swear most days at least 3 dozen kids can't find one of the 5 things on that sign.

anyway, point is i'd simply add this to the OP of the sign-up roster:

a tip for new members:
don't show off your first game to everyone yet! it's better to keep it a secret at first, so you can strategize with your teammates for the team victory.


what do you think?
on Dec 14, 2007
you'll have to forgive me a little bit, I've had to write up a number of wordy papers for classes and so its just where my mind tends to go easiest.

You're apologizing to *me* about being wordy? I'm probably the biggest offender of being overly wordy.

However, every once in awhile I can get a glimpse of the essence of an issue and bring it out in it's simplest form.

As an engineer the biggest dilemma is often that easy is hard and hard is easy. Basically what I mean by this is that it's easy to take a problem and come up with a big, overly complex solution. It's far more difficult to see to the essence of the problem and come up with the elegant, simple solution to the same problem.

The dilemma is that most engineering managers look at the big, overly complex solution and think that you must be smart to be able to understand it and look at the elegant, simple solution and say "that's easy, what took you so long"?
on Dec 14, 2007
a retooling of the Sign Up Roster could definitely be made to work; i just really don't want this to be happening over and over again; basically, I just wanted my idea to be made "user-friendly"

Maybe Neilo can get Marshall or lol, Piznit (have any of you seen his artistic skills hehe) to make a fancy little welcome/to do list poster to add to the OP
on Dec 14, 2007
In any case the effect I think everyone can agree on is that we do reach a true concensus and not get to the point where we have something decided 13 to 12 and we therefore blithely go down the path dictated by the 13 knowing full well that there are 12 people that don't agree. If we ever came to such a decision I would what to go back and try to address the objections of the minority and come up with a new set of options on which a majority greater than 13 to 12 agree.

However I really don't want to get too formal here with voting bylaws and such, it can really become a pain. We do have such things in the Metaverse Council and with only 10~12 people such procedures can work. For example to pass any rule change required a 70% majority just to encourage the concensus building I described above. However I think that if we tried to get all formal in the context of 25 people and growing I think such a system quickly becomes unweildly. I would prefer if we try to keep these kinds of things in the realm of common sense. It will be obvious when we reach true concensus just as it will be obvious when we don't. If we can't reach true concensus that just means we have more work to do trying to find a solution that's acceptable to a greater majority.


i agree completely. i also think we've reach a critical mass of players that we can be confident that the rules we decide on will please enough people as we continue to grow. i mean, i'm not opposed to changing things later, but i honestly think we probably won't need to very much.

personally, i'm okay with the system where things are decided on because neilo makes a ruling. he's a pretty benevolent dictator.   
on Dec 14, 2007
Piznit (have any of you seen his artistic skills hehe)


great, so we'll have all the first graders covered
on Dec 14, 2007
why not just use the sign-up roster? i mean, it seems to me the most logical place to do it, rather than yet another MVL thread. some thoughtful editing of the OP there might be enough.

Certainly possible. I agree that we have plenty of threads to go around. One issue is that thread is where people usually pop in to request membership. That doesn't totally satisfy the requirement that the new player make some extra effort to indicate that they will follow through.

Certainly being able to point to the OP of that thread and say read the OP and you'll pretty much know what to do could be helpful. The only concern is I haven't checked but I assume that Neilo wrote that OP and so Neilo would be required to manage this. I think that Neilo may very well have enough on his plate at the moment.

Personally I think that Silverbeacher and dystopic have by their posts and replies on this subject essentially volunteered themselves to be the official MVL welcoming committee and should therefore figure out the best and simplest way to accomplish this task. Does anyone else agree with this?

Assuming that I'll get a chorus of assent to that proposal please make sure that you make it easy for new people to join while still accomplishing the goal of making sure new folks will indeed show up and have some vague idea of how to proceed.

See wasn't that an elegant and simple solution to a problem? Well from my point of view it was, perhaps not quitre so simple from dystopic and Silvers point of view.
on Dec 14, 2007
I just wanted my idea to be made "user-friendly"


MVL for Dummies
on Dec 14, 2007
See wasn't that an elegant and simple solution to a problem? Well from my point of view it was, perhaps not quitre so simple from dystopic and Silvers point of view.


dammit, they do that to me at work, too! you really are a manager.
on Dec 14, 2007
you really are a manager

No. I'm an engineer.
on Dec 14, 2007
engineering grad students are also a pain in my butter tank, and that's close enough for me  

  just kiddng of course.
on Dec 15, 2007
would it help that i'm a liberal arts student?
on Dec 15, 2007



Personally I think that Silverbeacher and dystopic have by their posts and replies on this subject essentially volunteered themselves to be the official MVL welcoming committee and should therefore figure out the best and simplest way to accomplish this task. Does anyone else agree with this?


Fine with me, I think Dys was about to head out the door so we'll shoot some ideas back and forth and get a new page up soon here.
on Dec 15, 2007
heh i was just ball-busting, and i had a really bad day at work. and it even bled into ruining my plans for the night - one of my supervisors showed up at the party my coworkers planned. he yelled at me today and was on the verge of threatening me. i'm talking to the management officer on monday, but as for tonight...

me + whisky + boss = jail time i'd rather avoid, so i'm staying in.

PS: and yes, it does help your a liberal arts student. i studied sociology myself.
on Dec 15, 2007
engineering grad students are also a pain in my butter tank


Butter tank? What exactly do you do with it to give it that appellation?   

Kzinti empire2.JPG Sentient species taste better...



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